"There was nothing intentionally malicious about her post. I may not agree with her view but when you endorse a blogger, you have to accept that he or she is sometimes going to say controversial things." (Turodrique Fuad)
"On the latest furore, she has supporters from an unlikely source. The Society for the Physically Disabled as well as the Handicaps Welfare Association see nothing wrong with sharing the loos as long as the able-bodied give priority to the disabled."
Again, the local media has decided to paint Xiaxue in a favorable light. Again, I am not the least bit surprised (because Wendy Cheng writes for Maxim which is a publication under SPH). The reporter Jeremy chose to interview Turodrique, Monica and Wendy Cheng (and provided a link to her blog) but only highlighted a small quote from Peter Tan's blog without even a link so that readers who are not familiar with the situation would only be able to get it from xiaxue's entry on the issue and her edited and highly filtered comments (which I am sure Jeremy knows is in no way a true representation of the reality of the situation).
Jeremy has also left out the views from other bloggers such as shaolintiger, marcus, sandrapowderpuff and kimberlycun. If you really want to know how we feel about the situation why don't you interview US?
On a forum not far away, readers expressed other views on the biased article.
Prior to the article, I left a comment on Merv's site.
And Kenny Sia decided to pay me a visit.
I will let you guys carry on an open-minded, civilized and polite discussion with him (Please try and use logical valid arguments and restrain from vulgarities).-----------------------------
Trackbacks:
Why I avoid Mainstream Media (KimberlyCun)
Editorial Integrity? (Sandrapowderpuff aka Scandalicious)
Are you an online jerk? (Marcus aka Mooiness)
Journalists [who do not do their research or tries to blind us from the truth] Suck! (Kawaii Bunny, Lala-Fairy and Rumtum-Tugger)
Divide and Conquer - A Tale of Medicre Journalism (Mack Zulkifli)
Two Questions (Suanie)
TGIF - The World This Week (Up to Oct 30) (Darth Birdyz)
Disabled Toilet - Latest Tourist Attraction in Singapore (Rojaks Daily)
Related Entries:
The entry that sparked off the debate (XiaXue) [Very likely to have been edited to deceive new readers]
As Stupid as Stupid can be (Peter Tan)
Xiaxue gets pwned again.. (Shaolin Tiger)
Being civic minded and caring for your environment and society (ShaolinTiger)
Great Job! (KimberlyCun)
Kimage Well Done! (KimberlyCun)
I bet the campaign is a personal vendetta! (KimberlyCun)
Dude where's my toilet cubicle? (Sandrapowderpuff aka Scandalicious)
Down the toilet.. (Sandrapowderpuff aka Scandalicious)
Analysis of Xiaxue's downfall (Xialanxue)
Pwned! (Marcus aka Mooiness)
Hello Xiaxue (Suanie)
The Fucking Controversial Issue (Jimmy)
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202 comments:
1 – 200 of 202 Newer› Newest»Why did XX stare at orange juice can for two hours?
Because it said "concentrate."
How do you keep XX in suspense?
Give her a mirror and tell her to wait for the other person
to say 'hi.'
Why was XX disappointed?
Because she found out that 'Phillips 14 inch' was a TV.
How do you get XX to marry you?
Tell her she's pregnant.
What will she ask you?
"Is it mine?"
Hey peps, if you wanna write to them, here are the emails =
The Disabled People's Association Singapore
dpa@dpa.org.sg
Handicaps Welfare Association
hwa@hwa.org.sg
And well, you know this one.
sti@sph.com.sg
Top Inventions By XX
1. The waterproof towel
2. Solar-powered flash light
3. Inflatable dart board
4. A dictionary index
5. Ejector seat in a helicopter
6. Pedal-powered wheelchair
7. Waterproof tea bags
looks like i may have to turn on the verification option to prevent advertisements like the one above.
trying removing your blog from Blogger's list. that will help. :)
wait, is Society for Physically Disabled email this?
information@spd.org.sg
confused.
Regardless of how positive they paint her, the ultimate effect has been achieved which is to make her realise that her words carry a greater impact that she'd like to believe, and that they were wrong and hurtful.
As for ppl saying why don't we complain and boycott other companies that have so call "unsavoury" celebrities as ambassadors I say to you: we can't cover all areas but we do where we can be most effective.
And I repeat, a handful of "jealous" bloggers cannot make two companies change their mind like that. If they thought we were idiots, they'd have continued the endorsements.
Plus it was obviously more than just us conspicious bloggers that got flamed like mad, who wrote into Voxy and Kimage. Otherwise as I've said, the companies would have just deleted the emails and continued on their merry ways.
if xlx removes his/her blog then there will be one less avenue for us to express our views on the fake xx
And yes no mention at all about the racist words in that KL post. The disabled toilet post was the straw that finally broke the camel's back.
just CC your email to everyone eh sai liao.
A suggestion.. refrained from using expletives in your emails please :)
If you feel the need to voice out but can't express well in words, a simple copy and paste job on her original entry is enough to alert them i think. Remember to state that is from xx else they would think it is from you. hahaha
Happy writing!
Mooiness: "a handful of "jealous" bloggers cannot make two companies change their mind like that. If they thought we were idiots, they'd have continued the endorsements."
Agree. Anyway the ST article stated that Kimage got like 300+ emails from people complaining about XX, so they pulled out. Obviously, XX and her fans can't point fingers only at Peter Tan and kimberlycun, but that's what they're doing.
I declined the request for an interview from Jeremy. He said that will put me in bad light if I choose to keep quiet. I told him I have made my stand in my blog. It does not matter how I am painted.
he told you he will put you in a bad light if you declined his interview???
...
Obviously, XX and her fans can't point fingers only at Peter Tan and kimberlycun, but that's what they're doing.
That's what XX is well known for isn't it? It is always others fault and not hers. Her fans are people who like her doings and likes attract likes isn't it?
They naively believe two emails is enough to stop the endoresement deals. If XX has been doing well as their spokeperson, will any companies dropped her off by two emails?
Peter: "He said that will put me in bad light if I choose to keep quiet."
Looks like this Jeremy's brand of editorial integrity is equivalent to that of XX's.
One more thing (I originally wrote this as a comment for the last post but since XLX has now moved the newspaper fracas here I'll just put it in): What pissed many people off about her blog post was not that she thinks handicapped toilets can be used by able-bodied persons (I'm sure most of us have used one at one point or another), but the way she PHRASED her words. They were mocking, derogatory, and disrespectful.
If the two organisations had read the actual post, they wouldn't even have bothered addressing the "handicapped toilets for public" issue, but would have taken umbrage at the way she worded her post. I bet they were just called up by ST and asked whether it was fine for the public to use those loos, with the reporter giving them little or no idea of what the question is for. They probably took it as just a routine research question from a journalist.
What a seriously skewed article. I'm thinking of writing in too. ST is a joke.
That pose is trying to tell everybody she wins and she has the "RIGHT" to use the handicapped toilets.
Very true!!!!!
Is she pregnant? Looks like. =0
I'm not trying to be crude but...
have you guys noticed the proportion of her heights and the handicapped toilet setting?
With heels on and she is barely the height of the hand dryer?
gesundheit said...
"What pissed many people off about her blog post was not that she thinks handicapped toilets can be used by able-bodied persons (I'm sure most of us have used one at one point or another), but the way she PHRASED her words. They were mocking, derogatory, and disrespectful."
Can someone link to the particular post where she writes about the toilets? Want to read it but can't be bothered to search for it, everything is so long winded. Not that i'm not long-winded...
Try this,
I am hungrrrrrry
He said that it will put me in bad light, not he will put me in bad light. Go figure.
how biased the article seems to be. How could we let the general public know about this site and similar views?
u have to do it thru the grassroots way. email all your friends and send the link through msn and icq. Since the mass media is obviously biased and wants to present xx in a good light, I doubt they will showcase this site.
sue lin: Just a warning, she MAY already have edited her post just like she did for her 'KL sucks' entry; she's well-known for doing that. But I can't be sure 'cause I didn't bother to go and check.
to anon who wrote 'It amuses me everytime I read remarks (I can't remember exact words) about her "not toning etc.'
Why do people react? It's called taking a moral stand.
'If nothing at all, there is such a thing as retribution or karma which will befall on the wicked and evil ones, not so much on themselves, but on their most beloved '
Karma? Yeah, why do u think there aer so many people out there who haev reasons to hate her? and btw, try to leave a name the next time u post?
Ohh, that's fast. Thanks for the link.
Just a suggestion, it'd be nice if those who regularly comment here comment under a name instead of 'anonymous'. Doesn't have to be a real name, although that would be appreciated. At least a pseudonym. Just so the general public can see if there are hundreds of different XLX supporters or if the same people are commenting again and again, since this site is about the truth.
Having read almost all the blogs that are involved in the "toilet for disabled' issue and the emails and replies to/from the sponsors of 'Xiaxue', I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that human kind is basically vicious, malicious, wicked, evil, cruel,unforgiving, selfish, and greedy, among other beastly traits.
I'm not a blogger, but I do read a variety of good blogs from all over the world; I'm a fan of nobody and this is my first ever response to any blog. It is easier to sum up this over-blown issue in point form :
1) Expressing one's opinion about the usage of a toilet cubicle for the disabled is absolutely a non-issue; even the usage of such toilet by an abled person is not a crime or an offence, unless it's made a law, such as cruelty to animal for example.
2) Having expressed her reasons and opinion on the topic, she is, of course, open to dissenting views, such as the hundreds of responses I read here and elsewhere. BUT, dissenters should only express or counter with evidences within the boundaries of the laws so as not to be accused of slanders or defamations subsequently.
3) Obviously, the issue is now over-blown and will snowball given the fact that the dark side of human kind normally prevails. That's why we have to resort to the laws of the land from time to time.
4) The "boycott products" campaign and the mails written to the sponsors of "xiaxue" can have no valid justifications other than to break her rice bowl so to speak. This I really find hard to accept because it is pure wickedness, malice and jealousy. To add insult to readers, these people say they are doing it for the younger generation, our children ! There is even one who declares himself a Roman Catholic on his site ! To him, I ask where is his sense of forgiveness and Catholic values (Remember Pope John Paul II and his would-be assassin ?) I'm not anti-Catholic as I'm one myself, but I am ashamed of his actions.
5) It amuses me everytime I read remarks (I can't remember exact words) about her "not toning down her offensive words..", "..this being the second time she insulted people..", "..her language is vulgar..", "..she is anti-christian.."..why the sponsors are not taking actions yet.." and a host of others humorous statements. This clearly shows that these people either do have vengence in mind or are sadistically cruel. In that case, there is no point debating on the issue because no reasoning will hold.
6) It is hard not to notice that there are many, who in the words of some Malaysian bloggers, second class Malaysian citizens who are so keen in this "toilet" topic of the Singapore blogsphere. Is joining in this fracas gaining you more traffic to hope for future endorsements ? The idea is good provided their actions are not malicious or tainted with ulterior motives. But I just wonder why they, including those living abroad in places such as Perth,Australia, don't concentrate their efforts to write and campaign for a more equal status back home for their children's sake ?
7) It is also strange to note that even non-asian, a british national, is actively involved, not in a manner expected of him, coming from a country that preaches human rights and other high-level virtues. He seems to be snooping here and there and planting seeds of hatred and factionalism to achieve his ends. I hope he won't create another "opium war".
8) All said and done, it is best to know where to draw one's line. Any action has a reation as sure as the sun must rise. I won't be surprised if archives of concerned blogs are already downloaded and saved for a close scrutiny to discover any offensive remarks requiring official complaints or legal actions. If nothing at all, there is such a thing as retribution or karma which will befall on the wicked and evil ones, not so much on themselves, but on their most beloved - that is even more painful.
Why is ST siding with XX for??? They are just getting a bad name for themselves not that they have not already done so.
Btw, XX's legs are really chunky, so are her arms. Is she a midget?????
CK
to the above anon,
i find it hard to accept that all 300 people who emailed Kimage were just out to break her ricebowls. Isn' it too much of a sweeping statement to make? A little too presumptuous perhaps?
then why didn't they quote peter tan's sexist comments? "menses dribbing down her thighs" and simple sandra the busybody, if you do see this and reply, i wonder how as a female, you are not appalled with this comment.
why didn't they quote peter tan in kimberly's blog? his reply to jess in caps? "YOU ARE STUPID"isn't that worse?
why didn't they report that peter who proclaims himself to be a roman catholic christan on his blog (fyi, there is no such thing, it's catholic and the protestants? hello?), but spends so much time by being angry and bitter against the rest of the world? it's not an attack of his faith, but since he's so proud if it, shouldn't he adhere to the teachings too?
why didn't they quote kimberly's quote to jess? "they are so many spoilt brats because of parents like jess" or her calling jess stupid?
and what ricebowl are you talking about here? u call her 3 figure ex-endorsement deal a ricebowl?
of course nobody is bothered to read comments anymore so maybe you would like to know why peter quoted the menses dribbling down the thighs.
http://www.petertan.com/blog/index.php/2005/06/21/blatant-abuse-of-disabled-toilets/#comment-3061
that was why mah. i am either too nice, have nothing else better to do or i did thought that there is a reason why he go say like that. no need to thank me.
if you are all for taking responsibility as to what you write in your blog, i highly recommend that you write about peter tan and his hypocrisy.
on the surface and perhaps in real life, devoting his time to the rights of the PWD, and god, but deep inside, spends most of his time being sexist, angry and jaded with the rest of the world.
is this how someone of stature should behave? someone who proclaims to work with MNCs and NGos for the good of PWDs? don't you think he needs to be more responsible for his conduct than xiaxue? he is after all, a link between the disabled and the able-bodied. how can he behave in such a way?
as for kimberly, who started off that campaign, i have nothing much to say. that porn like banner on her blog says a lot as to what sort of blog she has. selling sex, and encouraging young girls to be wear skimpy clothings or expose their bits online. narcism is necessary? o-k-a-y, what sort of a role model is she then? can we say boycott too?
kyra, that is not an excuse!
like i said, he proclaims to be an authority on issue regarding the diabled because he has worked with affluent people. that surely means someone of such a high stature, and with an obvious need to protect his reputation should exercise more caution in his words?
i am appalled with xiaxue, but then again, that's not new, so what the hell. but in peter, this is totally unacceptable. everyone expects more out of someone people look up to, and he is in my opinion, somemore more important than xiaxue. yes, she is offending, but how can he, like i explained, someone so influential, write such appalling stuff?
i certainly hope he posts a bigger apology extended to everyone he's disappointed.
Nobody said that adherents to any faith need to be a saint.
And how is saying "You are stupid" worse than dissing the disabled and minority races?
"You are stupid" in THAT context is obviously merely an outburst of anger. You might say that he lacked self control or had to resort to meaningless insults in an argument. But there is no denying that XX's racist thoughts are most likely reflective of a deeply ingrained way of thinking.
And there is no need to 'boycott' Kimberly Cun because she is not endorsing any product.
And I think it's rather cheap to claim that just because someone says he is a roman catholic etc, he should not have anger?
Sounds like something XX would say. They don't have a right to be angry? Can you get more absurd than this?
Picture of Wendy having one leg on the toilet bowl together tagline ‘Wendy Chang found support from two unlikely groups’ which means from now ITS OK not only we can use it but we can vandalize it, this is how I view that picture.
That picture really 'BAD TASTE' with no respect.
Wonder how the handicap feel seening this picture??
Pity the Two Associations…. Another Bad interpretation
Oh yeah by the way seems her blog had closed up the comment box -even can't find old comment
lol coward
this is what an apology is =
http://www.petertan.com/blog/index.php/2005/10/24/an-apology/
it was to jess.
"Words once uttered cannot be retracted. In my impatience in trying to futilely get my points across regarding why non-disabled people should not use accessible toilets, I have, in some instances, been tactless, callous and impolite. I may have hurt someone in that process. I will not make excuses for those misconducts. I have reflected on that for the past two days, realised that my discourteous behaviour was uncalled for, confessed to my parish priest yesterday and made penance for it.
Further to that, I would like to apologise to Jess whom I had an intense debate at Narcissism Is Necessary. I am sorry for using those unpleasant words. There was no necessity on my part to conduct myself in such a manner. However, I stand by the facts that I have presented. I would like to humbly appeal to you to try to understand the restricted use of accessible toilets from the point of view of disabled persons. There are rationales why they are so."
Wonder what your motive is in trying to direct all the blame to Kimberly and Peter?
Even IF they are wrong, it does not somehow make XX right, you know?
delia who you referring to with "you"?
the anonymous who is so unhappy about peter tan and kimberly
From my side related:
http://www.shaolintiger.com/?postid=272
http://www.shaolintiger.com/?postid=275
anon wrote: "then why didn't they quote peter tan's sexist comments? "menses dribbing down her thighs" and simple sandra the busybody, if you do see this and reply, i wonder how as a female, you are not appalled with this comment."
Whether I'm appalled or not has nothing to do with the crux of the matter: that Wendy, being a high-profile blogger with many young fans, being an ambassador (and hence, a role model) and spokesperson, being a 21-year-old adult who is old enough to think, should i) know better than write the things she does, ii) know better than to harm the brand image of companies that pay her and still think she owes them nothing, iii) know better than to use her public profile to promote wayward behaviour among her young fans, rather than being a good role model. And even with this furore, she still putting the whole blame on others.
For a moment, forget about Peter, forget about Kimberly. You hardly see me talking about them because they're not the main reasons why we're having this huge debate.
It's about people losing patience with Wendy, and finally taking a moral stand.
anon wrote: "and what ricebowl are you talking about here? u call her 3 figure ex-endorsement deal a ricebowl? "
Mind you, it's Wendy who thinks we're taking away her livelihood, and even trying to starve her to death. =)
Delia,
I can see that you are confused by too many 'anonymous' writer. I'm the one who wrote the one and only 8-pointer reply and as I said I'm a fan of nobody but a reader of many blogs.
I noted your number of replies but I can associate with possibly 2 points:
1) It was not a not a sweeping statement to say that the 300 people who emailed the sponsors are out to break her ricebowl so to speak. Can you think of any other reason for complaining to the sponsors ? Granted that each of the 300 writers has his/her own reason for being inflamed to the point of emailing the sponsors, BUT the objective of complaining is the one same reason.
2) You mentioned about a 'roman catholic comment', I'm not sure you are referring to mine - in my comment, I didn't specify any name though I said..."There is even one who declares himself a Roman Catholic on his site ! To him, I ask where is his sense of forgiveness.." I was talking specifically about being forgiving and nothing else.
And to the annonymous comment that one cannot called a 3-figure sum income a 'ricebowl', do you understand what is a 'figure of speech' ?
Now that some results have been achieved by the complaints to sponsors, it is hoped that the campaign led by 'kimberlycun' continues into the future (she said so - I read somewhere this afternoon) to have other 'bad models'taught some moral lessons. But if it stops here with 'xiaxue', then readers can only conclude that this whole episode is only a malicious scheme in disguise to get even with her.
Can’t read signs? Dyslexic is a disability. Wait! Its worse when you can’t even conceptualize meanings from pictures.
Not being tall enough to go on a ride in an amusement park is considered a disability in some countries too.
Having to compensate for your height--- or lack of with extra high heels is a disability--- Napoleon Complex
Showing sociopath like behavior by being unable to empathise with others is a disability too- Low EQ.
Thinking you are all great when the world think you s***- Narcissistic Complex
XX probably have more disabilities but I think she might be eligible to use the toilet after all.
Next time I gonna use only the handicap toilet, bcoz more spacious and cleaner. Anyone ask, just say XX and the two societies say its okay. ):
To the Anonymous who wrote:
"2) You mentioned about a 'roman catholic comment', I'm not sure you are referring to mine - in my comment, I didn't specify any name though I said..."There is even one who declares himself a Roman Catholic on his site ! To him, I ask where is his sense of forgiveness.." I was talking specifically about being forgiving and nothing else."
Being forgiving doesn't mean one should accept or tolerate the wrong doings, it also doesn't mean not to do what's right, it's ALSO NEVER mean one should not expose one wrong doing. Forgiving is really mean holding nothing against the person who did wrong and moves on in life.
"And to the annonymous comment that one cannot called a 3-figure sum income a 'ricebowl', do you understand what is a 'figure of speech'?"
But then you didn't clarified in the first place. But honestly, if that '3 figure' sum can be considered as 'ricebowl' for XX, then, isn't it be prudent for XX to look for a secured job instead of just depends on such endoresement fees from various advertisers? Which are mainly on contract basis and don't last forever. Isn't all these just to show that XX is really a no brainer and don't plan for her future? Only wanting to live off on others?
I'm for one can swear to whatever god you believe that she truly delete off any comments that are not in favour of her, cause I had commented and were deleted off!!
When I saw the picture in the newspaper today I nearly buke and totally disguested, and I must agree with the few that said the pose that XX made really show that she had WON instead of being push off.
Damn!! I really wish the autorities can really take a closer look at her blog and then hang her for all the nasty and racist comments against minor race and religion. Sent the 3 not famous bloggers to jail under sedition act may not do any thing to the blogger community, but if sentence someone like XX to jail, then it will really send a very clear and stern message across to everyone who crossed the line.
xiaxue edited her racist entry. Anyone has the screenshot of the original entry?
The edited entry is so much more milder maybe thats y the authorities are not doing anything but I am sure alot of ppl saw the fucking racist and rude version - where xiaxue linked pigs with a particular race and also used the word "fuckers" to describe them.
She edited her entries again? Fuck! She is one fucking hypocrite! One fucking short fat liar! And one very stupid one too! And those who support her is really retarded!
pink shit is a coward who loves to edit her blog entries and delete unfavourable comments to her. she's a total hypocrite. everything she says can be disputed by her own earlier entries.
she's really a laughing joke.
Laughing Hyena
Anyone has the original entry? Paste it here can?
...
Q: To XX, what is long and hard?
A: Primary Six.
Q: What does XX and a beer bottle have in common?
A: They're both empty from the neck up.
WTF!! YES!!!! She really edited that entry and not only that but many of her offensive entries! What a LIAR! What a HYPOCRITE! Puke!! She is so despicable!! And yet she has the cheek to accuse others and claimed that she did not edit any of the entries! FUCK! REALLY HATE HER! HATE LIAR! ESPECIALLY UGLY LIAR!
Q: Why did XX climb up to the roof of the bar?
A: She heard that the drinks were on the house.
XX was swerving all over the road and driving very badly, so she got pulled over by a police.
The police walked up to her window and asked, "Miss, why are you driving so recklessly?"
XX said, "I'm sorry sir, but wherever I go, there's always a tree in front of me and I can't seem to get away from it!"
The police looked at her and said, "Lady, that's your air freshener!"
ROFLMAO . the jokes are very funny *clap*, very lame and stupid
After reading her entries and with the recent plea of being from a single parent family etc and wanting to move out to a bigger place.
As far as I can see from her blog, she is constantly out and having a good time with celebrities (if you call them that) and it crosses your mind, "If she can go out that often, join socialites and going to this and that event" She has to definitely spend a fair bit of money on those expenses which could have gone into the "future" of her home and family.
Splurging such money in the first place does not allow her to make such a plea and bringing out her family now to shield herself is quite unacceptable.
I never had the opportunity to read her racist blog entries, but if anyone does have the screenshots etc, please report her to the police . I do not see why she should be spared as much as those 3 bloggers who have been charged in court.
People work for a pay and their endorsements. However, from what I see, she seems to be paid to enjoy her time and never providing anything constructive or even have a hint of usefulness in any of her blog entries. She is certainly not a "rebel with a cause" either.
I suppose her "job" is to just go out and have fun, be seen and have fun that's all?
The only redeeming point in her blog is that Abbie is indeed a cute baby. But then again, that's just Abbie. I think XX owes her royalties for using her as publicity material from time to time.
And finally, I am very disappointed with the article as it basically promotes and propagates what XX said was right.
If we do find a influx of able-bodied people using those toilets and disabled people who arrive with full urine bags are unable to use it, will ST, Jeremy & XX hold responsibility?
Is it because she puts Singapore on the global map thru her blogging, that's why she gets away with everything? And that makes her the press and gahment's 'darling'? Makes me sick.
And to my readers... Yes, I have heed your advice. I could have deleted that blog entry and retracted my words, but I didn't.
I wanted to, BUT I COULDN'T. How can I lie? Those were my opinions, and I still don't find anything wrong with them.
I will never compromise my editorial integrity for commercial deals.
She will not edit her post! I trust her.
Just curious, are there any 'professional' bloggers in this world ? XX must be nuts if she thinks she can make a living from endorsements from those half-assed companies !
Anon said: "She will not edit her post! I trust her."
yes she edited her post. lots of people can attest to that. we do read carefully you know.
there are not many professional bloggers but there are some who earn a hell lot of money. none of them write the way xx does. different leagues what.
she EDITED her KL post...dammit LOL
She will not edit her post! I trust her.
I sure hope you were joking there. By the way, this verification thingy is always an annoyance. Have you experienced how bad Hotmail's is?
checking with some friends at the moment..think they might have her KL's post screenshot... *prays*
I was wondering if i have the screenshot of XX talking about racist things about KL, will she go down on her knees to beg me not to report to the police? I wish i had it.......but *sigh*
That's how much power a person can have. more than her.
if u have the screenshot u can pass it to bloggers like xlx..
if u have the screenshot u can pass it to bloggers like xlx..
or Peter Tan or Kenny Sia
One thing you can do is collect XX's quotes from other blogs. But I don't think this can be used as evidence though.
i think it can be evidence if people are willing to testify for it
People can testify. Her friends like Shuyin. If they hate her enough to betray her. Remember the msn talk where Shuyin told XX not to talk about racist stuff? And she changed it from pig to giraffe.
I do understand if you dislike someone, it is natural you will dislike everything about that person but sometimes a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If she wants to earn a living through blogging, that's her decision and is not for anyone to ridicule. How many people have told Wright Brothers that a flying machine is impossible? What I'm trying to say is everyone has a dream/ambition and they have every rights to believe the dream will come true. Whether they work towards it as a goal or letting it be a dream or it is a dream that will never come true is what they have to faced with, they don't owe an answer to anyone else.
If you are questioning she has resorted to extreme measures to drive traffic to her blog and it is intolerable, I do agree with you on this but in this context, I'm trying to draw a line between HOW one work towards the dream and if one have a dream. You can always disagree and disbelieve but never ridicule a person's dream/ambition.
And, if she doesn't want to get a full-time job, that's her choice too. If she can't earn enough to pay her bills, that's something for her to solve and not for others to worry.
I disagree with her stand for almost every controversial topics she blogged and am turn off by her repugnant attitude and views but there are some boundaries that we just can't thread.
Just my 0.2 cents worth..
considerin xx's "handicapped" height and "chunky" body proportions (of which she claims she's not fat. OH MY GOD. Pigs like her can fly), I guess she does have the privilege of using the handicapped toilet.
She just is just implicitly telling the whole world she's one grouchy, whiny, selfish, mentally challenged midget.
..."There is even one who declares himself a Roman Catholic on his site ! To him, I ask where is his sense of forgiveness.."
Firstly, forgiveness is what everyone should have but not everyone will have.
Secondly, regardless of your faith and choice of religion, it doesn't limits your capacity to forgive. It does not mean by following certain faith, you should be more forgiving than anyone else and those who don't have a religion has all the right reason to be less forgiving.
Trying to use a person's religion/faith as a yardstick to judge how a person should behaved is downright childish.
'If she wants to earn a living through blogging, that's her decision and is not for anyone to ridicule.'
No one's stopping her, Jacqueline, but people are just upset that she's doing it at the expense of others. XX got famous by flaming people, and u have to admit, no one hates more than an upstart who enjoys giving the finger to her detractors. Were XX's dream a noble one, people will support her, I'm sure, but hers is entirely the opposite.
Secondly, regardless of your faith and choice of religion, it doesn't limits your capacity to forgive. It does not mean by following certain faith, you should be more forgiving than anyone else and those who don't have a religion has all the right reason to be less forgiving.
Yes, so you know forgiveness has nothing to do with religion so here's a contradicting part you said "those who don't have a religion has all the right reason to be less forgiving". It does defeats the point you are getting through. It has something to do with how the child is brought up. Nothing to do with religion. And nothing to do with how people should forgive XX or not. it's how offended by XX words should they choose to forgive and to forget or not. Religion is just a extra part of life where you feel you need god to protect you and that's when you say your prayers.
Oh sorry, i did not see the 'and' part.
Hahaha.. monster! you just malu yourself! hahaha... you thought jacqueline supports xx and you too quick to jump into conclusion liao! I read your first comment I read until blur blur cause you are twisting her words but then your second comment cracks me up hahaha .. you overlooked the "and" hahaha... read her posts again lah! hahaha she is trying to tell that anonymous who uses Peter's religion to judge his sense of forgiveness that he is childish enough
aiya, my above comment "he is childish enough" the "he" refers to that anon!
Well, it's a bit of confusing but if you are jaqueline, im not a bit surprise.
Hey, i did not twist and turn her or maybe your words. So stop laughing your ass off. Im just speaking the fact. You don't tell me who she's talking to. Im not interested at all same as the whole bunch of idiots like XX and you.
Sorry, but whatever bye. So bored of XX. Omg, she SUCKS!! I not only dislike her when she talks but also, "you don't want your child to learn from me, than ask them not to read my blog" or something. It's like, wow on television and you say that!
"not malu you shit face"
confused leh! What you talking? Are you "monster" or are you that "anon" who talks about religion?
Why everyone open mouth close mouth say shit and stupid? Cannot talk properly meh? If you that "anon" you damn loser leh! You can comment then people comment you angry! Everyone come here to talk one mah! Only you can say meh? If you don't like people talk about what you said then don't comment lah! If you don't like then can reply courteously mah and tell others what you don't like mah. Like that very sore loser leh!
Why everyone open mouth close mouth say shit and stupid? Cannot talk properly meh? If you that "anon" you damn loser leh! You can comment then people comment you angry! Everyone come here to talk one mah! Only you can say meh? If you don't like people talk about what you said then don't comment lah! If you don't like then can reply courteously mah and tell others what you don't like mah. Like that very sore loser leh!
Speak proper English. If you are like 'leh, lor, lah', i don't see why you should say people talk shit and stupid when you yourself can't speak without the Singlish. I'm sorry but i am not that anon. At least i have an identity here not just an anonymous commenter. What makes you think only i can say? If you are like 'monster, you just malu yourself', you're just speaking as dumb as me. Oh wait a min, i'm not a sore loser, so i'm not dumb. geez, are you worth for me to be courteous?
"monster"
I said speak properly I didn't say speak proper english leh. Alamak, the word "Malu" is commonly used one mah and how I know you find this word offensive? wah piang, people all come here to fight one... why all get so angry and defensive so easily one? The leh meh mah very offensive also issit? Ok lah.. I speak proper England lah.. but then my England standard also Pte Ltd leh.. wait if use wrong word then you angry again.. better use singlish than trying to act seh and think hard hard to use good English and then still sound broken ..like that lagi malu lah.
Aiya..Got use name or use anon also never mind what. All come here to talk only mah, not that talk better got prize or got money what. why all get so work up one? Not that you prettier got more money or people listen to you more or you uglier people don't chup you at all.. just talk only mah. why you so angry if you are not that "anon"? I also never said anything bad about you what..
Relax lah brother.. you feel offended I say sorry loh.. wah piang.. I don't come here talk liao lah.. wait every post I have to say sorry...
If you think speak singlish is very rude or is stupid..or those who speak singlish is not worth your courtesy and respect.. then I think you belong to another class one loh.. not higher class but just another league loh..
ok lah.... bye bye... monster
"monster"
oh ya.. one last post loh.. I tell you hor.. your England although without the leh, lah meh hor.. not standard English and Proper English also leh... got many grammar mistakes .. aiya.. no offence ah... just let you know without "leh" "lah" "meh" "hor" in a sentence doesn't mean the sentence is proper English loh.. I can also take away my leh lah meh hor like you but still broken English leh..
ok lah.. bye bye.. monster
Hahahahaha! MALU kenna pwned! so defensive hor! No face oredi lah! Hahahah!
Yesterday's article is on Asiaone. They've got a link to Wendy's blog, but not the others.
AsiaOne
Back to work. =P
ps: apologies abt the above deleted posts, ran into some tech difficulties. =)
Wow ...WC (Wendy Cheng) really looks proud & delighted in that toilet pose...but I guess she is most happy & comfortable at where she belongs.
ARTICLE BY WC's sidekick Shu Yin
http://www.lalalapom.blogspot.com/
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" Don't you just love it?
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The Straits Time Page 4.
I didn't want to say 'I told you so'. But why waste this chance?
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
Don't you just love it when you can do that? I'm lovin' it!"
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Another dumb bitch with a half a brain
I've written to the two organizations to seek for clarifications as i found the statement quoted in the article to be too loosely worded and on the edge of a slippery slope
jacqueline said...
[Firstly, forgiveness is what everyone should have but not everyone will have.
Secondly, regardless of your faith and choice of religion, it doesn't limits your capacity to forgive. It does not mean by following certain faith, you should be more forgiving than anyone else and those who don't have a religion has all the right reason to be less forgiving.
Trying to use a person's religion/faith as a yardstick to judge how a person should behaved is downright childish]
You're referring to my comments:
Agree with 2 of your above; you're stating the obvious, but the most important essence has been omitted here:
Everyone can say "I forgive you" but does that end here ? Not by a long shot, that is why the saying "..To forgive is divine". Forgiving goes way deep down and is a doctrine of the Church. You find it in "The Lord's Prayer" taught by Christ himself. Of course, all other religions also teach about forgiveness. It is by no means easy to practise.
Forgiving means having no hatred, malice, vengeance, etc in one's heart towards the person who harms you.
That, of course, DOES NOT MEAN letting the guilty person off the hook with regards to the due process of the law, as an example, Pope John Paul forgave his attacker who serve years in prison.
Having forgiven somebody, one's heart /mind is free and one feels good , happy, carefree, etc, etc. and most unlikely to seek revenge or vengeance. On the opposite side of the coin, if one cannot find forgiveness in his heart, he is CHAINED to his anger, hatred, ill thoughts, etc. and will certainly find no peace even in sleep till the day when the 'devil' within him pushes him to commit serious crime(s) towards the people who have harmed or hurt him earlier on. His life is a miserable one.
With regard to your comment about being childish to using a person's faith/religion as a yardstick, I totally disagree:
It is to be assumed that people with a religion/faith have undergone religious teaching or indoctrination. They are expected to have the basic moral values and therefore be more tolerant, charitable, forgiving, etc. In this light, a devout christian, muslim, hindu, buddhist, etc is expected to be more moralistic in his thoughts and actions. Examples, try promoting financial plans with interests income to a muslim, and he won't be interested because earning interests is 'halal'; try eating in public, for a muslim, during the fasting month and you could be arrested. Also, tell me the profiling of individuals in the West with regard to terrorists' threats does not involve religion ?
Come on, let's not be hypocritcal. We all naturally measure or expect people of different faiths to react or behave somewhat differently from, say, the cannibals in the jungle AND fortunately or unfortunately, we 'judge' them by their behaviours and actions vis-a-vis their religious backgrounds. We are certainly not childish but that is our human nature (negative though), just as to always judge and pass comments without looking into the mirror at our own inadequacies. In the biblical context, we are throwing the first stone....(you know what I mean, if you're a christian)
OMG, look at her fat fugly face.
http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/192/1036/400/DSC02336.jpg
HAHAHHAHAHAAHA!! Malu! You power!! I LUB Singlish!!
Hahaha. Malu tio kan! Hahahaha!
anyway, just my short comments in my blog:
http://leonardpng.blogspot.com/2005/10/handicap-toilet-blog-furore.html
all must speak proper English ah wait monster come bite you ah hahahahha
SHUT THE FUCK UP MALU!! YOU'RE FUCKING IRRITATING .......
all must speak proper English ah wait monster come bite you ah hahahahha
Yeah, i hope you meet ghost every night in your dreams
Yeah, i hope you meet ghost every night in your dreams
Yeah, if you appear in my dreams every night
Yeah, if you appear in my dreams every night
I'm not a ghost so don't talk stupid! You are most probably malu ... no one will fight for her. bleh. so what if they do, she had said she's gonna leave when she post her whole load of crap
I don't think these two organizataions are going to reply to us. Unlike Voxy and Kimage, they don't feel obliged to answer to the general public. Just imagine - it took a big lawsuit to finally get NKF to open up. Can only think its the same with ST and most govt-related groups.
'ARTICLE BY WC's sidekick Shu Yin
http://www.lalalapom.blogspot.com/'
The most enlighening post i've read in my entire life. talk about a waste of webspace.
The most enlighening post i've read in my entire life. talk about a waste of webspace.
Aren't Shuyin and XX best friends? So, is Shuyin like mocking at XX? Wow, XX will be so unhappy! Did not expect of all words she chose, 'i told you so'. Guess dat person must have been really stubborn.
http://rojaks.blogspot.com/2005/10/disabled-toilet-latest-tourist.html
think shuyin should have left out the 'lawyer in training''s name.. lots of people in the school don't exactly like XX
Her gd pal, Shu Yin, like XX is a dumb bitch.
http://www.lalalapom.blogspot.com/
wah lao just attach xx lah attack her friend for what...she done nothing wrong wad
Q. Why did the XX jump out the window?
A. To see if her Ultra Panty-Liners with Wings could fly.
3 people are gonna commit suicide by jumping off a building, there is the clever XX, a fat guy, and santa claus. They all jump off the building at the same time, who hits the floor first?
The fat guy, because the other two don't exist.
What do UFO's and XX blogging career have in common?
You keep hearing about them, but you never see any.
Where did you get all those lame jokes. Seems like this comment area is more of a chat rather than to share opinion. But it is funny ... XD
can someone ask peter tan to go to hell??? its not that i like xx but he is SO bloody despicable. he's just a malaysian trying to create discord amongst singaporeans. Now all the malaysians are making fun of singaporeans. how nice is that huh!
http://rojaks.blogspot.com/2005/10/disabled-toilet-latest-tourist.html
hey rojaks makes fun of malaysians and everyone else also. it's not personal. luckily not all singaporeans are so uptight like you.
LOL! this is classic ...
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Anonymous said...
all must speak proper English ah wait monster come bite you ah hahahahha
Mon Oct 31, 04:51:41 PM 2005
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stupidanonymous said...
all must speak proper English ah wait monster come bite you ah hahahahha
Yeah, i hope you meet ghost every night in your dreams
Mon Oct 31, 04:53:28 PM 2005
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to stupidanonymous said...
Yeah, i hope you meet ghost every night in your dreams
Yeah, if you appear in my dreams every night
Mon Oct 31, 04:58:49 PM 2005
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to to stupidanonymous said...
Yeah, if you appear in my dreams every night
I'm not a ghost so don't talk stupid! ....
Mon Oct 31, 05:46:03 PM 2005
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LOL! to the stupidanonymous you are classic!
Someone needs to compile all these XX jokes :)
WC (Wendy Cheng) looks great in that toilet pose...she should just stay there.
xialanxue said...
looks like i may have to turn on the verification option to prevent advertisements like the one above.
xlx, you can do more than that by disallowing /deleting comments such as the following otherwise there is no difference between your blog-site and that of xx’s which, in the first instance, was condemned as unsuitable for the young impressionable readers including me:
Anonymous said...ARTICLE BY WC's sidekick ….
......Another dumb bitch with a half a brain
SHUTYOURMOUTH said…
SHUT THE FUCK UP MALU!! YOU'RE FUCKING IRRITATING .......
Anonymous said...
Her gd pal, …., like XX is a dumb bitch.
Anonymous said
Hahaha. Malu tio kan! Hahahaha!
i figure that if the foul-mouthed ones are dissipated to other vulgar sites which are more suitable for them, then hopefully the other comments with their ideas and reasoning will be more suitable to the younger generation. here i collected some samples which raise doubts as to whether the authors themselves are really that objective , reasonable, decent and moralistc ?
mooiness said...
a handful of "jealous" bloggers cannot make two companies change their mind like that. If they thought we were idiots, they'd have continued the endorsements
gesundheit:
...but the way she PHRASED her words. They were mocking, derogatory, and disrespectful.
…They probably took it as just a routine research question from a journalist.
…What a seriously skewed article. I'm thinking of writing in too. ST is a joke.
Anonymous said...
u have to do it thru the grassroots way…..
Since the mass media is obviously biased and wants to present xx in a good light, I doubt they will showcase this site.
Posh said…
Why do people react? It's called taking a moral stand
simplesandra said...
It's about people losing patience with Wendy, and finally taking a moral stand.
Sarah said...
I've written to the two organizations to seek for clarifications as i found the statement quoted in the article to be too loosely worded and on the edge of a slippery slope
while doing moral eductation in school i was constantly told to behave properly, speak/write decently, not to despise, criticize, judge or hurt others intentionally since we ourselves are not free from faults. we must always look into the mirror first before saying anything. from the above quotations, i can see some are too quick to draw the gun on moral behaviours, forgetting to look into their mirrors in which they would most probably see a pair of moronic horns. then there are those who can’t accept opinions which do not conform to theirs, such as the straits times report; how absurd can they be! "mooiness" even gloats sadistically over his successful vengeance ! it's odd they can't accept bad hehaviours and attitudes from others, but they seemed acceptable to the many lingering issues such as unequal citizenship status, corruptions, the rising crime rate, etc here at home. i am sure they would do pretty good if they fight/campaign/boycott as tenaciously or vociferously on those issues closer to their hearts than this "toilet" thingy of a foreign land.
but not all hope is lost; here i am thrilled to see that salvation is at hand and i quote here below for those morons whose attitude is “i am all good and right, even if i’m wrong it’s alright, if i say anything wrong it’s my freedom of speech/opinion and i listen only to what I want to hear” :
Peter said...
He said that it will put me in bad light, not he will put me in bad light. Go figure.
omg, at least there is one who has guts to correct what was wrongly quoted of him. Imagine if he couldn’t bother to do so, then again there will be cowboys drawing guns at poor Jeremy of straits times.
and finally, can you make out this from 'kimberlycun'
Posted by Kimberlycun on October 28th, 2005
I want to bitch about this ex-friend too .......Apparently.. ......And I’m bloody sure you’re not hainanese!
is there anything about hainanese we should know ? er, i mean the nuance. i better go before i begin to sound like those self-righteous people, i have an appointment at bukit nanas.
i figure that if the foul-mouthed ones are dissipated to other vulgar sites which are more suitable for them, then hopefully the other comments with their ideas and reasoning will be more suitable to the younger generation. here i collected some samples which raise doubts as to whether the authors themselves are really that objective , reasonable, decent and moralistc ?
Who are you to even teach us moral education? Aren't Moral Education taught in primary school? Look, you are exactly nobody to start with. Even if we went on to XX site and learn vulgarities, that's probably none of your business. That's how the way most people scold vulgar. And all should be targetted at you for being such a hell of a busybody! You go buki nanas is also your own business. Don't give all your bullshit here. 'Spam' elsewhere. I bet no one is interested in your 'teachings'. Bloody fool. Stupid banana, want to act like you are some big company. FUCK YOU! YOU BLOODY IDIOT GO TO EAT MY DOG SHIT!
xlx, you can do more than that by disallowing /deleting comments such as the following otherwise there is no difference between your blog-site and that of xx’s which, in the first instance, was condemned as unsuitable for the young impressionable readers including me
How young are you? Unsuitable content in what circumstances? You think we are watching porn here? Hey XLX, i just want to tell you something. Here is the place where we voice our opinion. And im glad you did not filter any comments. Not like XX, so that's 1 thing people like about this blog. Don't listen to the hypocrite. She thinks she is 8 years old that what i am or people here talking, are unsuitable contents. Fancy being childish at this age.
FANNIE! FANNIE WHAT SAI LA. act chio bway chio. kao beh kao bu ..........
omg. omg. a 'monster' has appeared so quickly. sorry if your raw nerve is aching when the figurative hat fits you perfectly. you are a good example of not only hiding behind vulgarities and obscenities, but also a 'kurang ajar' with poor grammar and sentence construction - people don't scold 'vulgar'- the word is only an adjective. of course you're not watching porn here but merely spewing 'porn' and sadly, you're not voicing your opinion but merely uttering filth which is worse than 'spaming'. if everyone has your traits then this blog site is not different from that of xx's.
your swear words don't frighten anybody; i'm pretty good at that too, it's just that you must learn when and where swearing makes you a yoyo-jerk that is as worthless as dung in your big mouth.
To fannie
The actual quote from peter was:
"He said that will put me in bad light if I choose to keep quiet."
Not "..that IT will put me in bad light.."
I think xlx was just asking whether peter meant HE or IT by his/her comment to determine whether s/he was right if s/he was interpretating the missing word as "HE".
if u know what i mean.. sorry i know i used too many hes and shes and its but i hope u get the pic
fannie wrote:"then there are those who can’t accept opinions which do not conform to theirs, such as the straits times report"
Just because it's the Straits Times doesn't make what's published the gospel truth. It's not that we don't accept opinions; we just don't accept opinions that aren't convincing. Besides, that piece isn't an editorial, so it's hardly an "opinion"--it's just sloppy journalism.
Fact is, none of us are trying to be the moral police here--just concerned citizens with the right to voice our opinions. Yes, we worry about things like corruptions, crime etc, but why do you think these things happen? They happen because people are morally corrupted--which exactly the sort of behaviour Wendy, a supposed role model for the young, is promoting.
Get the point? Good.
Have to agree about the pointless posts here, though. Kind of irritating.
you know.. when anyone who can't respond to disagreements maturely but resorted to using kid like expressions and idiotic accusations to venge their anger.. it is always wise to leave them alone. They will ignorantly assumed they won the verbal war when the other party stopped responding and be happily quiet after that. Peace for everyone then
monster said..
FANNIE! FANNIE WHAT SAI LA. act chio bway chio. kao beh kao bu ..........
This is childish
your swear words don't frighten anybody; i'm pretty good at that too, it's just that you must learn when and where swearing makes you a yoyo-jerk that is as worthless as dung in your big mouth.
You don't use words as nicely, do you? XD Then come on! Show your power! You don't have to teach anybody. First of all, im not even interested from the start. Aren't you going to bukit nanas, so why are you here, bothering reply to me, eh? Since you know vulgarities, you don't have to uphold yourself as a 'hero'. Secondly, you are just babbling away stupid stuff so why should i listen?
monster said..
FANNIE! FANNIE WHAT SAI LA. act chio bway chio. kao beh kao bu ..........
This is childish
Yeah, glad that you know. You are childish as well. Count me out.
And i suggest you run to bukit nanas before it's too late. Whatever the case, business is more important. You don't have to reply back anymore. It's not only irritating cause you are giving moral education, it's also you are an extra fan here to blow all stupid things at others
monster said...
Yeah, glad that you know. You are childish as well. Count me out.
Oh! You are the stupidanonymous who posted these..
Yeah, i hope you meet ghost every night in your dreams
Mon Oct 31, 04:53:28 PM 2005
and the to to stupidanonymous who posted this..
I'm not a ghost so don't talk stupid! You are most probably malu ... no one will fight for her. bleh. so what if they do, she had said she's gonna leave when she post her whole load of crap
Mon Oct 31, 05:46:03 PM 2005
And from this you posted
FANNIE! FANNIE WHAT SAI LA. act chio bway chio. kao beh kao bu ..........
Tue Nov 01, 05:57:39 PM 2005
you should be shutyourmouth too ..
SHUTYOURMOUTH said...
SHUT THE FUCK UP MALU!! YOU'RE FUCKING IRRITATING .......
Mon Oct 31, 04:52:31 PM 2005
And I believe many of the comments under different names like
not malu you shit face said...
not malu you shit face to malu said...
And should be many more too.. If aren't you, then may be you can try to know them as same mentality can be seen from all these posts. So you guys will definitely clicked.
omg. omg. a 'monster' has appeared so quickly. sorry if your raw nerve is aching when the figurative hat fits you perfectly. you are a good example of not only hiding behind vulgarities and obscenities, but also a 'kurang ajar' with poor grammar and sentence construction - people don't scold 'vulgar'- the word is only an adjective. of course you're not watching porn here but merely spewing 'porn' and sadly, you're not voicing your opinion but merely uttering filth which is worse than 'spaming'. if everyone has your traits then this blog site is not different from that of xx's.
And lastly, uttering filth, is not spam. Teaching others what to do is spam. vulgarities are also English. You can find them in the English Dictionary but sad to say, 'kurang ajar', in malay is not my language. You're spoiling your whole sentence. XX has fans that worship her totally but here, i believe many people speak up their mind. you can can call me a jerk all you want but that does not make you any better. Spewing 'porn' is better than being a teacher talking crap, teaching people what to do. Mainly all your posts.
And should be many more too.. If aren't you, then may be you can try to know them as same mentality can be seen from all these posts. So you guys will definitely clicked.
We will not click. Anyway this blog allows anonymous comments. So you can't say that i am them? If it is so, what's the PROVE HaHa, same mentality. Talk about me? I think you are them. Most slightly. Posting more just to push everything to me and make me your scapegoat.
To annonymous:
I was just quoting the comment here above by Peter (I assume it is Peter):
"He said that it will put me in bad light, not he will put me in bad light. Go figure."
Sun Oct 30, 05:11:00 PM 2005
To simplesandra:
I accept your view about not accepting opinions that are not convincing or out of sloppy journalism; what I was trying to impress upon is the unusual effort made to contact the concerned journalist (and sponsors) vis-a-vis other higher priority issues that concern the mass. I'm not saying it's wrong to question or write to the paper, but it just looks odd in the face of other pressing issues at home.
To ugly monster: (my final reply to you)
I'm flattered by your calling me 'teacher', but there's no way I could enlighten you or recommend salvation for your soul. Your pea-size brain of smegma can only absorb obscenities - what else can you learn; you are beyond hope.
Let's get this straight - it's you who respond to my comments with vulgarities and perhaps, even hide behind the names of other commentators. My suggestion to you is go find a life or 'drop dead'. Aren't you afraid of needles flowing in your blood stream ?
It's exactly people like you who desecrate a good blog site with swear words; you don't even qualify to be an 'abeng'.
I really wish there is more moderation in this site.
Friendly debates and arguments are healthy, but when one gets totally out of line and use obscene words, not in a general context, but directed at an individual without provocation is certianly wrong and to what extent ?
Wondering if xlx be prepared to help furnish IP address of such abuser for an abused to redress his/her integrity or does it require a legal summon to make such request ?
[[[[Anonymous said...
That pose is trying to tell everybody she wins and she has the "RIGHT" to use the handicapped toilets.
Sun Oct 30, 03:03:35 PM 2005 ]]]]
From the photo its already very obvious that the article is very biased. Glad I dont live in Singapore if XX and her bunch of foolish supporters are any indication of what the younger generation are like.It seems everyone is afraid of offending just one person instead of making a moral stand. As for the Societies involved, I would have expected a more responsible reply. i.e. after reviewing the entirety of her post. As for that journalist, HOW did he become a journalist or is that newspaper like our tabloids here in North America????
Fannie im asking you to read properly!
u quoted the comment by Peter WRONGLY yourself..
there's no "IT"
thats why xlx asking whether peter meant "HE"
please read peter's comment again
Wendy's latest entry - "FOR TWENTY BUCKS! Yeah, I know it's an imitation Guess watch (which I have a real one of, but in gold), but I needed a cheap watch to bring to Thailand, so I bought this one!"
So much for being poor. Flaming liar! :|
There you go! The most recent entry by XX. Buying a watch... having a REAL Guess watch... bought a shirt for Christian... having a marche meal... going karaoke... going zouk... All the cab fare I am sure she spends going from place to place.
Is this what it's all about? I have not seen a entry to date that does not have her spending lotsa money in expenses and going out all the time.
Yet, she has the cheek to bring up her family as a line of defence.
Someone put her into community service, like maybe toilet washing?
Oh yes and of course.
A Thailand Trip!
Her brother is suffering by not having a room of his own with reference to her own words.
Guess where the money went to lil'brother (who knows more moral sense than her)?
Your sister spent it all.
Stop trying to live life like a celeb when:
1) You are NOT a celeb.
2) Don't earn money like a celeb.
3) AND yet SPEND like one.
Poser.
...And I am sure she'll tell you its all sponsored or gifts from friends....she has a bag of excuses for every occasion
Q: What is the smartest thing that can come out of her mouth?
A: Einstein's dick.
The journalist can bullshit all he wants, but that picture of Xixue with her foot on the toilet - supposedly for handicaps - sure speaks for itself!
To Anonymous who commented:
[Fannie im asking you to read properly!
u quoted the comment by Peter WRONGLY yourself..
there's no "IT"
thats why xlx asking whether peter meant "HE"
please read peter's comment again]
Hey friend, there's confusion because there are 2 comments made by Peter here on this page, the 1st comment has "that" while the 2nd has "it" as the pronoun and I quoted the 2nd which makes no difference in meaning from the 1st.
Let me scan and copy the 2 comments with that of xlx below :
Peter's 1st comment and the time:
"I declined the request for an interview from Jeremy. He said that will put me in bad light if I choose to keep quiet. I told him I have made my stand in my blog. It does not matter how I am painted."
Sun Oct 30, 02:30:10 PM 2005
xialanxue's comment and the time:
"he told you he will put you in a bad light if you declined his interview???"
...
Sun Oct 30, 02:32:15 PM 2005
Peter's 2nd comment and the time:
"He said that it will put me in bad light, not he will put me in bad light. Go figure."
Sun Oct 30, 05:11:00 PM 2005
So I wasn't wrong in the first instance. Whether "that" or "it" carries the same conotation; if it is "he" then the problem will be huge. He was honest to make the clarification.
E&OE
WC's latest entry:
"So well, the eerie thing is this: There is this saying that you are not supposed to pose and take a photo INSIDE your car, or you will get into a car crash.
I'll remember never ever to take a photo of him inside the car anymore man, this is so scary!! "
I thought she has half a brain but apparently there is only an airbag.
Psst... WC, if u r reading this, there is this saying that you are not supposed to pose and take a photo INSIDE a toilet, or you will drown inside the bowl.
:)
What's the point of bragging about a Guess watch? On the scale of watch prestige, they're not even on the scale.
WC wrote :"Our favourite drink at Partyworld, Red Pearl Milk Tea! (If Partyworld personnel is reading this ah, gimme sponsorship, ok? I always patron you all, so as a reward lar, heehee...)"
I think she stands a better chance soliciting sponsorship from toilet roll manufacturer. Her initials W.C. makes her the perfect spokeswoman.
I think WC should really think hard and re-assess her life.
Abraham wrote:
"I think WC should really think hard and re-assess her life. "
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Think?? That will be kind of hard for her since there is only an airbag up there.
Abraham, think XX has thought really hard and long but only managed to do this much. Can't blame her though. Her brains stopped working after she finished primary school.
Q. What is the similarity between Mars & WC?
A. There is no sign of human intelligence
Q. How do u spell XX's realname?
A. "B-I-M-B-O"
Latest from XX's blog-"It is pointless, colourful, and superficial - but I'm sure everyone loves photologs anyway. Except people who don't have unlimited bandwidth... But those are losers, and I don't speak to losers so don't ask me to fathom how they will think... *shrugs*"
More stupidity from the single-parent, money-hard-to-come-by, brother-got-no-room moron.
If neutrals and her fans still don't geddit, it's this sort of hypocrisy and attitude that make people despise her.
Q. What's Singapore's version of "Dumb & Dumber"?
A. Wendy Cheng (WC) & XiaXue (XX)
Q. How do u spell bimbo?
A. "W-E-N-D-Y"
PS. This is a checksum. XX won't have a clue
john doe said...
Latest from XX's blog......... If neutrals and her fans still don't geddit, it's this sort of hypocrisy and attitude that make people despise her.
Speaking as a NUETRAL, I find your your remarks insulting specifically the "..if still don't geddit.." part.
Are you implying NUETRALS are kinda retarded, slow-witted and aimless ? We have grey matter up there too, you know ? Just that some people prefer to exercise their rights to be NUETRALS, as the saying goes 'no two persons are alike in everying respect'. It's not necessary to take a cheap shot at NUETRALS lest you help push us over the fence.
IT'S SPELLED NEUTRAL.
vtbAnonymous said...
IT'S SPELLED NEUTRAL.
Wed Nov 02, 02:13:31 PM 2005
Thanks for pointing out, there is another typo error too. Fancy me typing under some irritation !
Neutralgroup, you don't represent me. I don't find that offensive. I find it to be convincing.
nuetralgroup said...
'Are you implying NUETRALS are kinda retarded, slow-witted and aimless ? '
No. I'm just referring to the people who "don't hate or like XX" but nevertheless accuse us of being vindictive - we are not.
XX is not the only person that can give you goose bumps.
Check this pic and in the XX's thread! Scrolled down and look at the picture at thread #103.
I saw it yesterday and from then onwards, I'm immune when I saw XX's pic again.
Warning! Be prepared! I nearly fainted and till now I'm still having goose bumps.
john doe said
No. I'm just referring to the people who "don't hate or like XX" but nevertheless accuse us of being vindictive - we are not.
???????????????????????????????????
Above language is too 'chim', can you make up your mind what you wanna say ?
If neutrals and her fans still don't geddit, it's this sort of hypocrisy and attitude that make people despise her.
.....
Speaking as a NUETRAL, I find your your remarks insulting specifically the "..if still don't geddit.." part.
Are you implying NUETRALS are kinda retarded, slow-witted and aimless ? We have grey matter up there too, you know ?
Just because one doesn't get it, doesn't mean that one is a retard. But I think that if Nuet here can pounce at anything that can be interpreted as controversial, I wonder how he'd react to Xiaxue's posts.
Maybe, one of the reasons neutrals stay neutral is because they haven't been offended by Xiaxue. And there are probably those who probably never will get offended, though. But when neutrals get offended, like in the case of Neut here, then only they stand to speak up... Of course, just a sweeeping generalisation :)
People just don't give a fuck who she is and what she does or say. You guys have simply over estimated her influence. If you are worried about the teens, a better way is to stopped talking about her, removed all the links related to her and stopped sending traffic to her blog. The teens will realised she is not popular any more and will stopped all interest on her. She is just a topic among people rather than a role model.
Among the readers she has, I believe 95% are mainly haters and neutrals. Maybe 5% really find her cool. Who cares for that 5%?
As you often like someone who is different or a mirrored version of yourself(with the exception of XX who is well known to be a laughing stock who dislikes a reflected version of herself). If those who like her because she is different from them, they wouldn't be able to follow what she is doing as they know they won't. If those who like her because she is similar to them, even without XX, their innate characters won't changed much.
I really won't bother if she climbs up or rolls down the hill. Though it will be a good news if she does rolls down but it is none of my concern either.
Anyone who finds her cool is not someone I will be friend with or have interest to mix around with. Neither will I make an effort to know her too. So she is not going to influence my life so who cares? I'm just a happy onlooker to the flaming war. She wins or lose doesn't affect me at all. I believe a majority people is just like me, who cares about XX?
And that pic is really gross! Night mare!
Quoting ben2
"Just because one doesn't get it, doesn't mean that one is a retard. But I think that if Nuet here can pounce at anything that can be interpreted as controversial, I wonder how he'd react to Xiaxue's posts.
Maybe, one of the reasons neutrals stay neutral is because they haven't been offended by Xiaxue. And there are probably those who probably never will get offended, though. But when neutrals get offended, like in the case of Neut here, then only they stand to speak up... Of course, just a sweeeping generalisation :) "
ben2, at least you admit you're making a sweeping statement including the part about me pouncing at anything ......controversial.
* Please show me all my posts made on anything and everything controversial.
* Of course, if one "doesn't get it" does not necessarily mean he is a retard. But herein, there's a nuance and the interpretation to the receivers depend on the latter's background; to a sensitive person, it can be like asking "why are you so slow, silly, stupid, etc...you still don't get it ?"
* If I tell you how I'd react to Xiaxue's posts, especially the more controversial ones concerning me, would you take my words for it ? I'm not her fan nor anyone's fan.
* Finally, you're stating the obvious - not only neutrals, but everyone will speak up when he/she gets offended. Haven't I the right to be neutral ?
Quote Miss Neutral
Neutralgroup, you don't represent me. I don't find that offensive. I find it to be convincing.
Wed Nov 02, 02:33:53 PM 2005
Glad to learn by your own IMPLIED admission that you are a neutral; of course, I don't represent you or anybody; did I say so ? Please don't put words in my mouth.
It's also amusing to learn from your own statement above that you don't find it offensive, instead you find it convincing towards another reader's comments implying neutrals are slow-witted or aimless since they..... "still don't geddit" !
Should I also address you as 'john doe' also ? How low can it go asks Chubby Checker !
Q: Where will WC hold her family outing?
A. The toilet for the handicap - since it is spacious and has a sink
neutralgroup said...
"It's also amusing to learn from your own statement above that you don't find it offensive, instead you find it convincing towards another reader's comments implying neutrals are slow-witted or aimless since they..... "still don't geddit" !"
Yup, you STILL don't geddit. The only person who's implying that neutrals are - to quote you - "slow-witted or aimless" is you. I've stated my point, if u bother to read, that is. Btw, you don't sound very neutral to me.
who cares? said...
"People just don't give a fuck who she is and what she does or say. You guys have simply over estimated her influence."
Yeah, tell that to the people who sponsor her, the media that got her to write and appear on TV/radio, the people who chose her to be ambassador of some Quit Smoking campaign. If the weed can keep to its miserable corner in the garden, i'm fine with that. ;-}
PICTURE 103 IS THE FREAKIEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN ON THE NET.
and i've seen tubgirl.
dude that was just disturbing okay. i sure hope that it's a photoshop.
ben2, at least you admit you're making a sweeping statement including the part about me pouncing at anything ......controversial.
Please show me all my posts made on anything and everything controversial.
I said "anything that can be interpreted as controversial." Obviously, in your case, the "still don't get it" part caused some disagreement/disapproval, but some others didn't find it that offensive. Like you said, one's perceptions on things are relative. Though I agree that "you still don't get it" can be used as an insult, but you're the only one who interpreted it to imply "you're an aimless, slow-witted retard who lacks grey matter."
Neutralgroup, you don't represent me.
...
Glad to learn by your own IMPLIED admission that you are a neutral; of course, I don't represent you or anybody; did I say so ? Please don't put words in my mouth.
Using your logic, it can be IMPLIED by your username that you somehow speak on behalf of the neutrals. Of course you don't. But there are lots of things that could be implied here and there, against you, me, and everybody else if one wanted to. Using your logic, didn't you put words in another's mouth, aimless/slow-witted etc?
If I tell you how I'd react to Xiaxue's posts, especially the more controversial ones concerning me, would you take my words for it ?
Enlighten us.
I'm not her fan nor anyone's fan.
Not even Chubby Checker's? :)
Sorry, that was me, ben2.
Q. Why did XX get so excited when she completed the jig saw puzzle in 6 mths?
A. Because the box states "2-4 years"
Q: What is the smartest thing that can come out of XX's mouth?
A: Einstein's dick.
Yeah, tell that to the people who sponsor her, the media that got her to write and appear on TV/radio, the people who chose her to be ambassador of some Quit Smoking campaign. If the weed can keep to its miserable corner in the garden, i'm fine with that. ;-}
She is losing the positive limelight.
You can't denied that her entries at the beginning of her blogging stage was not that incoherent but she lost that style ever since fame gets to her head. Those who gave her a thumbs up were likely to be those who did not catch up with her later stage of blogging. She lost that now and soon if you guys stopped giving her the attention, she will be tumbling down the hills earlier than expected as she is digging her own graveyard at a rapid rate.
You guys made her the hot topic of the town and media loves to buy the convenience without paying bulks for advertising. Go figure?
Quote: john doe
"I've stated my point, if u bother to read, that is. Btw, you don't sound very neutral to me."
For your info, I have read it over and over many times, but still baffled by your "don't hate or like.." options. It does not matter anymore, I am not that petty as you may think.
It is regrettable if you feel that 'I don't sound very neutral' to you, that's only your telepathic perception. My perception of neutrality in such 'forum'is to be as impartial and objective as humanly possible with regard to the topic of discussion in an atmosphere of politeness, decency and fair play.
But the ideal is almost never feasible, given the fact that we're all humans coming from varied backgrounds and experiences. Coupled with the lack or non-existence of rules and code of behaviour, partaking in such forum is indeed very vexing. Profanities, nit-picking, accusing, abusing , etc help turn the forum into a jungle.
Consequently, those who are 'neutral' get sandwiched between the 'pro' and 'anti' groups within a hostile environment; and when a 'neutral' takes issue with one side, he is seen as 'not very neutral' to the other side.
There can never ever be an ideal 'neutral' here or anywhere in everything field, as Man is imperfect. So just enjoy the friendly exchanges of views without being personal and profane, and hopefully friendship can develop.
But the ideal is almost never feasible, given the fact that we're all humans coming from varied backgrounds and experiences. Coupled with the lack or non-existence of rules and code of behaviour, partaking in such forum is indeed very vexing. Profanities, nit-picking, accusing, abusing , etc help turn the forum into a jungle.
Time to grow up and learn to deal with people from all walks of life. Fannie, it is a blogsphere in a WWW you know?
neutralgroup, so much talk yet you haven't answered john doe's question: what makes you think he was insulting the neutral's intelligence with "for the neutrals who don't geddit"?. You were the one who inferred that, not him. And you say you're not petty. sheesh.
A nitpicker who resorted to "let's be nice and not nitpick" when he's being nitpicked! Now what does that imply???
To Anon or ben2 or whoever you are, it's not ethical to hide behing several personas, that's schizophrenic. You (I don't know singular or plural anymore) must have been reading too much of xx's crap.
IF you read the key words carefully in my earlier comments (it's ok if you can't as this is my last response to you), all these are unnecessary.
Don't put words into other's mouth as a defensive arguments. You said I am the only who interpreted it :
"you're an aimless, slow-witted retard who lacks grey matter."
The fact is I specically wrote:
"...it can be like asking" which means it is only an example. Can be more analytical or not ?
And though I can be a fan of Chubby Checker but he is not a blogger, don't you know hah ? How can you compare apple with orange ? And yes, we all -you and me and everybody - at one time or another are guilty of many, many things including putting words in people's mouths ok ? So, forget about this topic - no more time to waste liao ! Who am I talking to, I also don't know leh !
fannie wrote: " what I was trying to impress upon is the unusual effort made to contact the concerned journalist (and sponsors) vis-a-vis other higher priority issues that concern the mass. I'm not saying it's wrong to question or write to the paper, but it just looks odd in the face of other pressing issues at home."
Maybe that's because most of these "higher priority issues" are beyond most of us. Poverty? Crime? Corruption? We'd love to fix these things but there's only so much the average "citizen" can do. Fact is, if society can't even get their moral bearings right on "little issues" like Wendy, what about the "higher priority" and bigger issues?
Besides, who is to say some of the people here aren't doing their part for other causes?
Writing in to the respective people to voice your displeasure is hardly what I'd call "unusual effort", if you ask me. If you want unusual effot, try reading the comments from some of Wendy's rabid fans on her blog: one even suggested getting even with Kimberly by ramming her with a car.
Even all the mindless swearing that goes on here pales in comparison to that. =)
ben2 & anon,
sorry ah, above post is from me -
something is not working properly.
Don't worry, I understand. You just forgot to put your name in your previous post, that's all. You don't have to make up an excuse that something wasn't working properly (unless, of course, you were implying that it was your brain). What I don't understand is that you have the nerve to call me schizophrenic, even after I've made clear that the anon post was mine.
And look at the irony here... Well, well, anon, nuetralgroup, or WHOEVER you are, "it's not ethical to hide behing several personas, that's schizophrenic."
Is hiding behind the name "nuetralgroup" itself ethical to you? If you think "you still don't get it" sounds insulting/condescending, then what about this: "IF you read the key words carefully in my earlier comments (it's ok if you can't as this is my last response to you), all these are unnecessary"? And how does this sound neutral to you: "You (I don't know singular or plural anymore) must have been reading too much of xx's crap."?
The least that you (i shall assume singular) can do is start practising what you preach. And since you presumably won't respond to me anymore, I wish you good luck for your journey on becoming a neutralist. Goodbye :)
Ok was reading XX's blogging tv critic or something and yeahh. I just realised how rude she can be and that I think e way she insulted Fiona Xie is because she's jealous of her. Because fiona's pretty and she's not. Btw.. I've oso finally realised that she's a person who only wants to listen to what she wants to hear.. But nonetheless.I won't insult her on the open like most people do.
But stil I don't find anything wrong with the Handicap thingy statement she made. Afterall, she merely said that able-bodied people should be allowed to use e toilet when there's no physically handicapped people around right.. And a few more..Or is there more to it..?
xx is a fucking hyprocrite. kudos to xlx for showing us the light!
jackie i assumed you read her edited version. you should check out the other sites that quoted her original statements and words
hey annon, you great man! don't change ppl name lah, do you need an old pair of glass hehe! also leh, forgot to wash yr mouth with listerine issit?
jaccckkie said...
"But stil I don't find anything wrong with the Handicap thingy statement she made."
Personally I think so too, and I know friends who use them also. But I can understand why people still whack her anyway becoz of the other things she said.
I wonder why she does the things she does. Has she ever regretted anything?
Does she ever think before she opens her mouth?
Many people like to mutter the Poepye 'I yam what I yam...' line.
Do you think she will ever be reformed?
I wrote in to Straits Times Forum, the editor & Jeremy Au Yong and cc'd the gang at the Handicapped Welfare Association, Society for the Physically Disabled and The Disabled People’s Association Singapore. Anyway, I received a reply from SPD today and they had written in to the straits times too clarifying that they were quoted out of context.
Below is the email from SPD:-
"We refer to the article "All flushed over toilet blog" (Sunday Times, 30 Oct). We wish to clarify that The Society for the Physically Disabled (SPD) was responding specifically to the reporter's query on how it views non disabled using toilets designated for disabled people. SPD was not responding to the blog content or to the blogger of website xiaxue.blogspot.com. Hence, the quote attributed to SPD in the article was used out of context.
Our specific response to the reporter Jeremy Au Yong's query, as conveyed in an email reads:
"Accessible toilets are equipped with features that are not only useful for wheelchair users. Expectant mothers as well as the elderly will also find the grab bars and other features useful. In that sense accessible toilets should not be confined for use for wheelchair users only. We should work towards having public toilets that are universally designed, so that it would be of benefit to everyone without discrimination."
Mr Au Yong however did not use this view and requested again specifically on how SPD felt about non-disabled using the disabled toilet. Our response to his subsequent request via email is:
"Accessible toilets are made for people who need special considerations for their limitations, and should be available for their use at all times. However, reserving them for use by people with physical disabilities without exception can also be impractical, like in situations when there's a queue of people waiting to use the toilet or when someone has an urgent need to use one. In such instances, it makes more practical sense to simply use any available toilet. That said, the priority for the use of accessible toilets should first be given to people with physical disabilities as some have poor or no control over their bowels and bladders."
Our view remains that accessible toilets should be made available at all times to people who have special needs whether they are the elderly or wheelchair users. SPD strongly advocates an inclusive society where all users, regardless of abilities are able to access universally designed facilities and amenities equally.
Dr Ow Chee Chung
Executive Director"
After I'd received the email, I forwarded the email to the Straits Times again hoping that they would readdress the issue. Then, Jeremy Au Yong called me up on my mobile phone. He would like to know my views with relation to the disabled toilets. I maintained that my views are the same of that as SPD. Let's hope he would not quote me out of context. :)
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